Rob Crompton

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  WT June 15, 2012 - No lasting career in this system

  by Designer Stubble in

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  Rob Crompton

  I can recall being told as a thirteen-year-old that I ought not to spend much time on school work. It was of no value and Armageddon would be here anyway before I left school. But I did leave school before Armageddon - and became a pioneer - but I also began to read books I shouldn't read. Like Russell's Studies in the Scriptures and Rutherford's crazy stuff. And it all fell apart. Eventually - after being disfellowshipped - I went to university. And I loved it, I did post graduate study. And the University of Durham even supervised my research into the origins of the Watch Tower movement.

  Armageddon will be here before I leave school? I've worked a whole career since being told that one and now I'm retired and getting on with a new career as a writer. So what do I think of the advice that the Wise Old Men of Brooklyn gave me? It was crap.
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  Did he say that?

  by truthseeker1969 in

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  who can remember brother or sister "cock-up" who would look at a word and say the wrong thing.. example through the during the creation book brother tongue tied refered to the lack of need for multiple orgasms to bring life?.

  or elder detailed who instead of saying i have started so i will finsh (a popular british tv saying) saying i have farted so i will sinnish?.

  lets have a laugh at our best ones!.

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  Rob Crompton

  Best one of these was on British radio a few months ago (Radio 4 today prog) Jim Naughtie tried to refer to Jeremy Hunt the Culture Secretary - but got it wrong! (And, yes, folks, that really is the presenter's name!)
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  Can A known Apostate enter A KH .

  by jam in

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  lets say the people in my area know that i am a. apostate.

  i walk in, sit and i behave.

  after the meeting.

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  Rob Crompton

  I must say that when I attended my mother's funeral at a kingdom hall the folk were very kind and friendly. I wasn't sure what sort of reaction I would get because I was a former special pioneer and ministry school servant. Since being disfellowshipped I had become a methodist minister and had published a book about the JWs. So how would they react? they were very good indeed and the elder who officiated at the service was genuinely friendly and courteous. I have no cause for complaint whatever.
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  Someone has a list of scholars who believe in Jesus as a real person in history?

  by TJ Curioso in

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  when we say that most scholars believe in jesus as a real person, ask for real credentials.

  who are these?.

  someone has a list of those?.

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  Rob Crompton

  I am not aware of any serious biblical scholars who do not believe that there was a real historical person about whom the stories are told. There is wide variation in what is believed about the extent to which the stories reflect the historical Jesus. For a Jewish perspective on Rabbi Jesus I would recommend Hyam Maccoby's book, Jesus the Pharisee, which does a splendid job of relating Jesus to the Rabbis ofhis day. Another writer who is definitely worth reading is Leon Zitzer. Zitzer is not a member of the academic establishment - and hisfrustration and anger with biblical scholars shows throughout his work (self-published) His book, True Jew, is a must-read. My own view is that Zitzer probably gets pretty close to what actually happened.

  A word of caution, though - if you read either of these writers be prepared to drastically change your mind about what you believe!
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  Rewriting J. Witness mistakes.

  by edmond dantes in

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  if the governing body could turn back time and do a rewrite or change their past teachings what would be their top priority ?.

  would they have to eliminate everything and start again?.

  any one want to tell them what to shred before forensics arrive?.

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  Rob Crompton

  Yes, still in print. At the risk of self advertising (I got a mod's warning for mentioning it once before) it's rather pricey because it's published as an academic book but if anyone wants a copy PM me for a reasonable deal. Or, of course, borrow from the library!
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  Rewriting J. Witness mistakes.

  by edmond dantes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if the governing body could turn back time and do a rewrite or change their past teachings what would be their top priority ?.

  would they have to eliminate everything and start again?.

  any one want to tell them what to shred before forensics arrive?.

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  Rob Crompton

  Hi, Slimboyfat - glad you enjoyed my book. I'm still writing, but strictly fiction only now.
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  Rewriting J. Witness mistakes.

  by edmond dantes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if the governing body could turn back time and do a rewrite or change their past teachings what would be their top priority ?.

  would they have to eliminate everything and start again?.

  any one want to tell them what to shred before forensics arrive?.

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  Rob Crompton

  Rutherford managed a pretty thorough reinvention of the Watchtower movement. Being a rather disagreeable character he alienated most of those who remained loyal to Russell's ideas. And those who persevered under Rutherford were mostly disillusioned by the fiasco of 1925. That left him free to build a new movement which he distanced from both mainstream christianity and the continuing Bible Students.
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  Reverse Mormon Converting Site.....to...LOL

  by Poztate in

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  looks like some are striking back at the mormon "habit" of baptizing dead people... .

  http://alldeadmormonsarenowgay.com/.

  damm... not clickable.

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  Rob Crompton

  Imagine if all religions and sects practised this crazy proxy baptism for the dead: Monthly meetings in heaven when all the "saints in light" are summoned and told that as from this afternoon we'll be welcoming the following new saints. But unfortunately a lot of you will be receiving notice to quit, so will the following please pack your bags.
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  british passport

  by varian in

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  hi everyone.. i just applied for the renewal of my british passport.

  it really costs a fortune to have it done.. i had to have new photos taken too.

  the pictures has to be to the according requirements.. now they ve send me an email, saying that my head was too close to the camera.

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  Rob Crompton

  No, Muslim women are not allowed to have passport photos with faces covered. Same regulations for all and if anyone is unwilling to supply a photograph meeting the requirements, they will not get a passport.
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  Something interesting

  by d in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was looking into two bibles by the jw's.

  one was written in 1909 which was called the the holy bible american standard version.

  the other obviously the new world translation.

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  Rob Crompton

  The American Standard Version was not a Watch Tower version. It was the work of an American team of translators working very much in cooperation with the British translators of the Revised Version. It was the favoured versoin of the JWs because, unlike just about any other version, it rendered the tetragrammaton 'Jehovah'' throughout the Old Testament. It fell out of favour when the WT produced their own New World Translation.